gun. let's be honest, they are there, they live in big cities, in apartments, they think the police will be there to protect them. then you live out in kansas, out someplace out in the country, and you know the police won't be there for a half hour no matter how hard you yell, how many 911s you call. you do have to defend yourself, right? >> absolutely. >> they have attitudes. it is country mouse versus city mouse. bloomberg, who i really respect, the mayor of new york, says something, i'm sure the guy in reading, pennsylvania, says okay, big east coaster, tell me how to live. >> he is the wrong person, the absolutely wrong person to be the face of the gun control movement. it really is because of just what you're pointing out. what does that guy in new york city -- and this is where if you have this conversation -- if you lived in new york city, you understand his mindset of not wanting 9 million people armed. >> yeah. >> on new york city. but if what you just pointed out about living in rural america, whether it's kansas, arkansas, you name it, it's different. you're right. you kn